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    Re: Where is everyone?

    See, as I stated, you will not even rise to the challenge - for the obvious reason you know the result. I'd win before you got off the starting line. Fine. Other posters will make up their own minds about the life you suggest I should start leading and the one you lead.

    Oh - I forgot! If you prefer, why not give us links to posts of all the trip reports you have made to all the places you have visited in North America, South America, Europe, the Middle East, Japan, China, Australia . . . I'm game! I could go on but it would just be more embarrassing for you.

    Oh and I was not writing about what you think. It was specifically to give other posters the ability to make up their own minds.

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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Looking over at gaybuttonthai, it is obvious that MFAS is sedentary. Spends all his time bar one short trip per annum in Pattaya (several bars no doubt). No wonder he will not go near my challenge!

    From gaybuttonthai Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:24 pm
    Quote Originally Posted by Undaunted
    I have been here for nearly 14 yrs
    From gaybuttonthai Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:18 pm
    Quote Originally Posted by Undaunted
    I have just booked my yearly escape from Pattaya.....This year it will be Hanoi.....Qatar Air non stop round trip $154.00
    To paraphrase your words MFAS, "get a life other than the one you have" in sin city Pattaya. You might even learn something about the world!

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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by a447

    Recently, Kommie re-opened an old wound in one of his posts. I reported the post but nothing was done about it. I then pm’d you but you didn’t even bother to reply.

    As I understood it, it was decided last year after much discussion in one of the threads that the original offending post outlining a trip Kommie took with me would stay but that a link to it was not allowed. Therefore, I expected that post (not the poster) to be deleted. When I checked today, it was still there.

    I understand you can’t please everyone and sometimes a choice must be made. In this case, you chose to support Kommie’s post and allow it to stay on the forum, rather than protecting the right of a member not to be harassed. So be it.

    Leaving the post on the board means I cannot remain here. It is not a decision I have taken likely, but I’m not going to go through that whole harassment thing again. I’m sorry, but I’ve had it up to here. Criticism is fine, but not harassment. As I wrote in my pm, enough is enough!

    So I will now cease being an active poster here into the foreseeable future (unless the need arises), and concentrate on posting on the other two forums.

    I’ve been a member for 11 years, have made over 2000 posts and written innumerable trip reports from Japan and just about every country in S.E. Asia (and a couple in Europe). My trip reports alone have gathered countless thousands of views over the years.

    I hope you continue to enjoy Kommie’s posts, especially if you are into fake news and alternative facts. I’m sure you will see my leaving and Kommie's offending post remaining as a good deal for the board.

    But I'm not sure all the members will feel that way.
    You know a447....as I told you before, you're looking for attention from the wrong guy.

    Surfcrest

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    Surfcrest: "Beachlover has not returned, Homintern is dead and Kommie is back under a new...or not so new name. "

    Sorry, I missed the point. Kommentariat is now Frequent? I hope a447 will cool down again, I love his trip reports.

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    Re: Where is everyone?

    As "quiet" departures go, this has certainly been pretty raucous. Why not just stop posting if that's what you want to do.

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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Welcome to our forum


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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Allow me to answer Brad and Surfcrest and hopefully that's it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad the Impala View Post
    As "quiet" departures go, this has certainly been pretty raucous. Why not just stop posting if that's what you want to do.
    Well, it was quiet, buried deep in this thread, until Surfcrest posted his reply, accusing me of saying things I didn't. That's when it became "raucous". He chose to shout at me and make false allegations as I proceeded towards the door, rather than just let me leave and not have to defend myself.

    Surely I can’t be held responsible for his decision to make those comments.

    But he didn't even need to reply. I simply said there was a disagreement which I purposely didn't go into, and left it at that. There was nothing in my post to reply to. No criticism of him. No accusations. Nothing.

    If Surfcrest wanted to reply, all he had to say, if anything, was "bye!" Instead, he chose to go on the attack, posting fake news and alternative facts in an attempt to blacken my name.

    How is that in any way a reply to my post? What is the good of attacking the messenger, rather than the message?

    I thought PMs were exactly that; private. It began with Surfcrest drip feeding information to members from a PM, which is a despicable act. (It’s even worse when the information is not true.) This led to my posting of my PM to him. It's mine so I can decide whether or not to release it.

    But now Surfcrest has committed a cardinal sin on internet forums - he has released my other PM without my permission!

    This betrayal of privacy has not been seen on the board since Neal was in control. A dangerous precedent has now been set.

    This man has no scruples.

    Surfcrest, you reveal the contents of PMs at your own peril.

    Now Brad, at the moment I’m just replying to the posts which refer directly to me. Like this one. Are you denying me the right of reply, a right you are quick to exercise yourself? And quite robustly, at times?

    Surfcrest, if I wanted attention, either from you or anyone else, wouldn’t I have begun by posting the details of the disagreement on the open forum? And in a separate thread?

    Also, I imagine I'd be bombarding you with PM'S. In reality, PM's between us since you took over the board have been few and far between.

    All I ever asked of you is that an existing rule, which had been broken, be applied and that you stick to what was previously agreed. Nothing more. How is that “seeking attention”? I was seeking action from you, not attention. There’s a difference.

    And in any case, why would I seek attention from someone who hardly ever posts on the forum?

    Finally, you suggested that I was after some kind of privilege, or wanted to be treated differently. I’m not sure what you were saying, as you omitted a verb.

    But it is not me who is being given privileged treatment. It’s Kommie/frequent, who you have decided is exempt from the rules.

    Surfcrest, have you ever stated that you were aware that Kommie was also posting as Brisbaneguy and Sooty at the same time? Think carefully. Have you?

    If so, then you are giving him special treatment. In a recent thread you stated that posting with more than one handle meant that you were banned. You told us you banned Sglad for that very reason. You had no qualms applying the rule to him.

    Last year, on two separate occasions, Kommie attempted to sabotage this board by making posts where he added links to newspaper articles containing highly defamatory comments about a certain high profile Thai figure and his son. Fortunately, the posts were caught in time and quickly deleted.

    By allowing him to remain on the board even after that, you are suggesting that the transgressions by Kor Tose, AsDaRa, kjun12, et al are more serious than any attempts by Kommie to destroy the board.

    He can do it again.

    Kommie has Surfcrest by the balls.
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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by a447 View Post
    Allow me to answer Brad and Surfcrest and hopefully that's it.
    I thought PMs were exactly that; private. It began with Surfcrest drip feeding information to members from a PM, which is a despicable act. (It’s even worse when the information is not true.) This led to my posting of my PM to him. It's mine so I can decide whether or not to release it.

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    Come on A447, Surf did exactly the same thing with me and you did not say a word. Posting PMs is only bad when it is your PM? All I can say is that I told you guys a long time ago that Surf was Neal in another form and no--you didn't believe me. So in MHO you have no bitch. Ignore Brad he was always a bit dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khor tose View Post
    Come on A447, Surf did exactly the same thing with me and you did not say a word.
    KT, I can't recall someone ever divulging the contents of anyone's PM., let alone yours. It's unheard of in chat forums.

    Did you post about it when it happened or did Surfcrest post it within a thread? If it was the latter, I may have missed it as I don't read all the topics.

    Surfcrest 's action is akin to a lawyer posting his client's details, however innocuous, on the internet. Or a catholic priest hearing someone 's confession then broadcasting it to the entire congregation. Imagine the furore that would create.

    When Neal was running this board, he once told me that he had the capacity to read member's PM's.

    "But, of course, I would never do such a thing!" he said, with a straight face.

    I don't know for certain whether he could or not, but at the time he was feuding with me and a couple of other posters, he was able to prevent some PMs getting through and could delete incoming PMs. That suggests he may have been reading them.

    He was even able to send me a PM pretending to be Sooty - one of Kommentariat's aliases. Of course, he denied on the forum ever doing that, but he forgot one thing - Sooty was banned at the time and so couldn't possibly have sent it.

    Since then I've limited the number of PMs I've sent and been extra careful as to what info I reveal.

    But maybe you're right, KT. Members perhaps are willing to accept such a gross breach of internet privacy protocols - until they have a run in with Surfcrest one day, fire up their computers and see their own PM'S plastered on the forum.

    Surfcrest has done irreparable damage to his reputation and credibility through a thoughtless act of vindictiveness in an attempt to extract some kind of revenge .

    But revenge for what? I'm still not sure.

    Is it because of the decision I made? Was I such a wonderful, witty, engaging and fabulous member without whom the board cannot survive? Hardly.

    Is it because, as Brad said, I provoked him by mentioning the fact that another board had lots of new members? Hardly, considering I had already made the same comments in the thread, so he was already well aware of them and let them pass without comment.

    Even Neal at his worst was able to resist the temptation to post members' PM'S. So you're right - Surfcrest is indeed Neal in a different form. But a worse form.

    And like with Neal, you'd certainly think twice before going into business with him!

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    Re: Where is everyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by a447 View Post
    I can't recall someone ever divulging the contents of anyone's PM., let alone yours. It's unheard of in chat forums.!
    With all respect, I reckon everything has been heard of in chat forums at some time. Without dredging up detail, the content of a pm I sent to a poster on another Board was quickly revealed in a post made by one of his pals. The only problem for me was that it contradicted what I myself had written to the owner in the hope of avoiding any conflict and which he had posted a day or so earlier. It was ages ago and best forgotten - but it happened.

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