Where is everyone?

[Surfcrest]

Yes, try to get it straight. Surfcrest made accusations against me, not the other way around.

Yes, I accused you of trying to strong arm me with priviledge by the number of posts you made to delete a post made by Frequent, which turned out to be entierly true. You have subsequently accused other members of lies in this same thread, even though...so far, you're the only one with these alternative facts?

Where haven't I been truthful with you anywhere in this thread or my replies to you?

The more you say the more ridiculous you appear. I'm surprised you're still here, so many posts after you threatened you wouldn't be,

Surfcrest

[Brad the Impala]

Look, why don't you just quote from my PM the part where I allegedly 'denigrated' them?

The part? Oh I think it permeated the whole post. Can you confirm that you are happy for me to share the whole "Farewell" PM?

Although you still don't seem to be willing to say how many posters you sent it to, in your Pied Piper attempt to lead others to your promised land(aka leaving quietly!).

Perhaps you could then leave, being careful not to slam the door on the way out, isn't that how you described your departure?

[frequent]

The part? Oh I think it permeated the whole post. Can you confirm that you are happy for me to share the whole "Farewell" PM?

Although you still don't seem to be willing to say how many posters you sent it to, in your Pied Piper attempt to lead others to your promised land(aka leaving quietly!).

Perhaps you could then leave, being careful not to slam the door on the way out, isn't that how you described your departure?

And you were such pals once upon a time

[frequent]

a447 is leaving?!?!?!? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....

As you may know, psychiatrists often recommend autobiographical writing as a form of therapy - I regard a447's pornographic posts in that light.

[frequent]

For the record I sent a447 a PM a couple of hours ago and he has kindly replied. In keeping with my long-standing practice of not wasting my time, I have deleted his reply unread

[fountainhall]

For the record I sent a447 a PM a couple of hours ago and he has kindly replied. In keeping with my long-standing practice of not wasting my time, I have deleted his reply unread

Such a busy bee is frequent. Or at least so he makes us think. In fact he's just lazy - as evidenced in the antibiotics thread.

[a447]

Such a busy bee is frequent. Or at least so he makes us think. In fact he's just lazy - as evidenced in the antibiotics thread.

It's true; he did send me a PM. And his post suggests he did indeed read my reply.

Of course I won't divulge the contents - but nice try nevertheless -except to say that after my reply he certainly won't send me another one.

Lol

[frequent]

It's true; he did send me a PM. And his post suggests he did indeed read my reply.

Of course I won't divulge the contents - but nice try nevertheless -except to say that after my reply he certainly won't send me another one.

Lol

You have a PM. LOL.

[a447]

Now, back to Brad.

Oh I think it permeated the whole post.

So you THINK it PERMEATED.

That's your reply for my request for specific proof of your accusation? You mean, that's it?

Brad, you are priceless.

You still have no concept of what a Private Message is. It's exactly that - nothing more, nothing less. It's private. There's a principle here. It would be nice to maintain it.

Unfortunately, some people are unprincipled.

But I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll quote from my PM and you can say if my quotes are accurate. That way we can see who is lying whilst going someway to protect the integrity of the concept of Private Messages. So from my PM, whose actual content added up to around 8 complete lines :

Denigrating the owner/ moderators

I've had a run in with Surfcrest

Surfcrest supported Kommie and let his post remain

Singing the Praises of another forum and persuading others to leave

Gaythailand has had a new lease on life since a dramatic increase of new members. It has really taken off.

No mention of Moses, if that's the other person you say I "denigrated."

No begging, asking, suggesting, etc others to leave.

And wow, that is some "praise of another forum!" That will have members rushing for the door! Lol

So, you lied, yet again!

Nothing to see here. Move on. It's all been said before by me in the open forum.

But I loved your party analogy. Do you mind if I borrow it?

I'm about to go to a party across the road (one of the house rules was 'No pissing on the food'. I reported to the host that someone was doing that but he didn't do anything about it) and am talking to a bunch of guys who have just been kicked out by the host. Apparently, they have been pretending to be someone else and the host got upset. Actually, I don't blame him.

Mmm. What's that foul stench? Oh, it's the guy who just pushed past me and went back to the party. He looks like he's on a mission. He's having a chat with the host, who is looking a bit pale.

Hang on! Isn't that the same guy who was just caught trying to burn the house down? Good Lord, that's the second time tonight! Lucky for the host that he was stopped in time.

He's holding what appears to be a can of petrol and a lighter. Don't tell me he's threatening to do it again!

WTF? He's even threatening to alert the newspapers!

That guy is dangerous. I'd be extra careful if I were the host. I certainly wouldn't do anything to antagonise him.

It could mean the end of the parties.

Now to Surfcrest. (This is getting exhausting!)

I have already posted the list of false accusations you made against me. How many times do i need to post them? Both my PMs have been posted here and both show you lied about their contents. All you csn do is try to save face by attemoting to put your own spin on them and read into them things that do not exist; i.e. you are reduced to interpreting them.

You'd make a great politician, Surfcrest!

[fountainhall]

May I make a suggestion.

Let's just agree that whereas PMs are supposed to be just that, it will never be so. Like it or not, mankind is a sociable animal. We talk to each other. We are not bound by the official secrets act (at least most if us aren't - I was advised on this Board by Jellybean who knows about these things some months ago that having signed the aforesaid UK act at the age of 24, it still applies even though I quit the job 16 months later!! - but then that refers only to Her Majesty's secrets and those of her government). In the course of general conversation, the more so in our cups, it is not unusual for us to let slip what perhaps should not be said. So the content of PMs may have a habit of getting out.

Not quite the same as being posted on a thread for all to see, I grant you. But then the whisper campaign starts. "You mean you haven't heard about ____?" The end result is that the content of PMs can filter through. When it then becomes an open "I said . . ." "Oh no you didn't, I said . . ." it then becomes somewhat ridiculous to talk about privacy, the more so if it gets so detailed most other posters haven't a clue what is being said of whom to whom and by whom!

And as if that were not enough, none of us have perfect memories and in the heat of the moment can misinterpret part of what is being written.

The point of all this is a respectful suggestion to a447 with whom I share part of a background in common to quit the badgering of Surfcrest. I hope you don't depart. Others post on 2 or 3 Boards. Surfcrest rescued this Board when it seemed extinction was a near certainty. He is a busy businessman with, I expect, not enough time to moderate and put up with all the issues members throw at him.

Thanks to Moses taking a share in the site, we now have a much better-looking site and a constant link to all the gorgeous guides on his Siam Roads. But most of us are well aware that Moses' native language is not English - and I'm sure he'll agree that many of the subtleties of English are lost on him. So in the absence of moderators, we have to accept that it is our job as members to try and resolve issues. Should we have a moderator? I think so, but I am aware that most almost certainly don't. Remember gaythailand before Michael sold it when the heavy hands of gaybutton and z909 along with the much more liberal Michael ruled the roost?

Besides, who on earth would take on the job of moderator here? It would be a ghastly and time-consuming task that would no doubt satisfy very few. I've been in a few ding-dongs in my time and they are rarely satisfying. Could we perhaps now agree that this thread quickly dies without winners and losers - and that in future none of us relies on PMs as being as confidential as perhaps we feel they should be.

Oh, and by the way, anyone vote for MFAS as moderator?????