Always nice to have something to blame!Originally Posted by arsenal
Always nice to have something to blame!
Give him a chance Bud, he's only been Prez for a week. Expect his Nobel Peace Prize (or perhaps in 'Physics') application to land in Stockholm sometime in late February (in a Tweet).
"I'm gonna be sooooo good with that prize, I'm Sooooo deserving of it. The guys here are gonna sooooo love me for this. You hang it around my neck? It's real gold right? Heavy? You think the Swedes mind if I grab a few pussies during the ceremony?"
Just another reason why I love living in Thailand
No way. His Nobel is already earmarked for Literature (Best Fiction of the Year).
It takes time to ascertain the actions Pres. Trump will do...after a week,,gee,,meaningless...it takes months to get things moving and acted on..Wait...
And much of what is wrong in the present day world is indeed the white man's fault. Forget the slaughter of entire civilisations by the Spanish in Central and South America, the mass slaughter of native Americans by white settlers claiming their land, forget the massacre of 1 million + in India/Pakistan thanks to totally arbitrary orders drawn up by the British in a matter of weeks.
Think of the Middle East and the utter chaos in that region. Somewhat ironical that Bush and his cronies had as part of their mission, so they said, to introduce democracy into that part of the world. Isn't it the values of democracy that all American administrations spout? Who was it that organised the dismissal of Mohammad Mosaddegh as the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Iran? The CIA with help from the British. The reason? Money - in this case oil. And who put their money behind the corrupt Shah and led to the Iranian revolution in 1979?
Sexually Deviant Latin may regard history as" leftie tree hugging crap". That's his delusion! Facts trump alternative facts!
christianpfc (January 30th, 2017), Tintin (January 30th, 2017)
Correct....and don't forget Balfour and the Israel problem. After refusing to accept that the indigenous population had any rights to their own land, we scuttled out of Palestine 1948 when the Jewish militias started killing our troops,, leaving those native peoples to be massacred or expelled. That's always been a characteristic of the British Empire; exploit, enslave and run when it gets too hot. We remain Perfidious Albion in that region.
fountainhall (January 29th, 2017), scottish-guy (January 29th, 2017)
Fountainhall and Olivier: De Facto President Aung San thanks you both for directing the conversation away from the fact that mass slaughter (perhaps genocide, we don't know) is taking place under her jurisdiction. And indeed arguing that it has nothing to do with her at all but is in fact entirely the fault of Britain. You do have considerable form in this Fountainhall.
Don't you actually read dear arsenal?
I stand by everything I have contributed to this thread!
British colonial rule is to blame. That's what you wrote. So if the present UK government starts clearing out the Ugandan Asians it will be Ted Heaths' fault right? Because he let them in.
For creating the situation? Of course it is. What else are you suggesting? The British, Spanish, American, Belgians, Dutch - you name it, all colonial rule was in the interests exclusively of the ruling power who wanted trade, cheap imports and outlets for their manufactured and other goods. And a good deal of colonial rule was pretty hideous. Suggesting otherwise flies in the face of everything history teaches us.
On the other hand, you can apportion blame but everyone has to accept you cannot turn the clock back. (Everyone except Donald Trump, that is, who says he wants to send back the children of Mexican immigrants who, through no fault of their own, find themselves in the USA). Britain did not bring the first Muslims to Burma but it certainly imported hundreds of thousands. It could at least do something to try and help solve the problem if it so wished. But it's a bit like the Alan Turing conundrum. Convict a man who happened to be gay and force him to take his own life. But this one happened to save millions of lives by shortening World War 2. Then accept the argument that, although punished according to the law of the day, he was hard done by and pardon him. But what about the tens of thousands of others who were convicted for precisely the same reason? It's unlikely any of them will be pardoned. No country can go about righting all the wrongs it committed over the centuries. But it can acknowledge it created them in the first place.
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