One main reason I love living in Thailand...

[bao-bao]

Got your point, Matt. Being gay is not a disability, but differences can be unsettling for some. What we don't know we don't understand. What we don't understand we tend to fear, and what we fear we usually dislike because that's easier than trying to understand.

My opinion is that it's the person's own comfort level with faced with something "different" that fuels the nervous "some of my best friends are..." reaction. Sometimes I've felt as though they were trying to over-compensate in an effort to be polite, too, and sometimes it's a flat-out ruse to blanket their distaste.

[latintopxxx]

Thai's are just as biased against gays as any other society in the world, you cannot judge Thai norms on the go go boy scene; this is not real. I have a colleague who was seconded to our Thai facility for 9 months and was openly gay, bordering on screaming hand flapping diva queen deluxe....and he was com-pletely frozen out of the work social scene, straight Thai's with normal jobs, especially the university educated ones with well paying jobs (read тВм2500/month and up) are very particular about who they socialise with; absolute kiss of death if you drag a low class provincial boy as your partner to a social event, your Thai colleagues will somersault over speeding trucks to cross the street so as to avoid running into you...and your sex toy!

[Dodger]

...bordering on screaming hand flapping diva queen deluxe

I've always felt that gays who act like this have a screw loose....and If I was a Thai employer I wouldn't hire him either...and I'm as non-homophobic as they come.

[netrix]

тВм2,500 = $3,607.05 USD
who makes that kind of money in thailand? i have quite a few bkk wannabe hi-so friends
who are university grads, and most make less than 15,000 baht/month.

Our last show and bar manager made 25,000 a month and the current manger/dj makes 17,000 a month so there are good paying jobs still to be had but certainly not easy to find here. Our assistant make 8,000 a month.
I guess I am lucky living in Pattaya as nobody gives a hoot whether you are walking down the street with your young boyfriend or girlfiend and nobody blinks an eye if you even bring it up. I of course dont know why that would be a topic of discussion though and I would just answer it saying I was single. Period and I wouldnt go any further. No need.
The only nasty looks I ever got in Thailand were from USA falang from an aircraft carrier, and I got shrewed looks from many German tourists at a ritzy resort down in Hui Hin. I simply tip better and of course everywhere we went we recieved 1st class service from everyone and falang saw it and realized they better stay away and not say anything. Same goes for BKK when I stay in the Shangri-la Hotel and the boys are with me. Security is told not to ask me questions about who I bring in or can I hold or see thier ID card. Nothing. They join me at the buffet, some people again look but when they see everyone saying "Welcome back.......name) they back off and shut up. When we go to the pool we see some other gay couples who seem to also be very comfortable. One time I asked if it bothered them and they replied, NO you are our guest and therefore he is our guest. why should we care? Anytime I am alone (laughing) they always ask me where my son is!! love that place. If you want a beautiful place to relax and be spoiled and you are not travelling super economy... try it.
Otherwise back to the subject.....
If you get wierd looks or they dont like you maybe you can reloacte to a place where you feel more comfortable. Only a suggestion.
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[bao-bao]

тВм2,500 = $3,607.05 USD
who makes that kind of money in thailand? I have quite a few bkk wannabe hi-so friends
who are university grads, and most make less than 15,000 baht/month.

That's been my experience, too. I don't talk compensation with too many people there, but from what I'm told Bt 15K per month isn't bad money.

I know a network administrator at a university who's making Bt 11,500 per month, and while one member spoke of a far shorter work hours those tech jobs can be long days in the real world.

тВм2,500 = $3,607.05 USD
who makes that kind of money in thailand? i have quite a few bkk wannabe hi-so friends
who are university grads, and most make less than 15,000 baht/month.

Agreed, most Graduates with only a Bsc going into their first job with a Thai company would be lucky (extremely) to crack 10,000 THB a month.

What can I say? As namarakiac would say (not me) the Pimp pays his whores very good money! I am surprised his slaves are paid so well!
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[cameroncat]

As everyone is saying, a degree from a Thai University is certainly no guarantee to make good money. My ex has been working several years for a large Japanese owned travel agency, and even though he is a "Manager", he only makes 15,000 baht a month. That's about half what you get a month on Unemployment in the US. :rolling:

[latintopxxx]

whilst тВм2500/month may sound implausible please explain who lives in and or owns the hundreds of thousands of terribly over prices condos in Bangkok, Pattaya,etc... can"t all be retired German/Dutch postal workers on their тВм1800/month pensions!!
As an auditor I have extensive contact with multiple multinations in Thailand, Thais with proven western standard management qualifications in fields such as QA, supply chain, operations and general managemnt command a premium; mainly because they are difficult to find and very picky about who they work for.
Very cost effective to hire a Thai, speaks the local language, no driver needed, no ridiculous expat package.
Thailand is not all about gogo bars and tacky mass tourism!!!!